This may seem like a "dumb" question....but can an item purchased from Victoria's Secret be considered vintage?
This may seem like a "dumb" question....but can an item purchased from Victoria's Secret be considered vintage? The piece is around 20 years old. I guess the retailer's name is throwing me off because it is typically not associated with vintage clothing. Thanks! (and Happy Friday ya'll)
The new theory is that if the item is 20 years old (not 19 or less) it is considered vintage. Now, practically everything I own is vintage. LOL
ReplyDeleteAh... Thank you Sue Smith! My closet is similar...lol
ReplyDeleteNo "Dumb" questions here Shanda. No one expects anyone to know everything, and if they do they aren't anybody to worry about. :)
ReplyDeleteAntique is 100 years just in case you were wondering. Some folks like to say it is only 75, but it isn't.
lol. Thank you Margaret Siemers. Oh, yea...saw one of those people on a TV program last night who were attempting to classify a beanie-baby as an antique. :)
ReplyDeleteWhat you have is a vintage victoria secret piece, in comparison with modern releases, many manufacturing, material, and design techniques have changed.
ReplyDeleteThank you Curts Clocks. That is a very true statement. I actually think they stopped making the long lingerie dresses entirely (or haven't seen one in a while). Kinda glad I hung on to them for so many years.
ReplyDeleteShanda Tingle "saw one of those people on a TV program last night who were attempting to classify a beanie-baby as an antique."
ReplyDeleteThey do abound on the internet, folks just don't know that, and many other terms used by professional dealers that have been in the business longer than yesterday.
Sorry Tanya Hollitt, I have to disagree.
ReplyDeleteRetro is not actually a designation like Vintage or Antique. It is quite often used incorrectly, and of course misinformation spreads like wildfire here on the internet.
What Retro actually indicates is "an imitation of something from the recent past"
Example: "Our member Charlotte Issyvoo enjoys dressing in Retro 40's style clothing." Which means she likes to copy the look of those fashions as closely as possible. She could find a brand new hat in a store that looked exactly like a 1940's styled hat, and that would be considered a Retro Look, or Fashion, because the style is going back to another time. Even if she put on an authentic vintage 1940's hat, the style of dress only would be called Retro, not the clothing.
I must agree with Tanya Hollitt on this one dear stanley jett. No one likes to see misconception in their chosen profession, and to loosely paraphrase Wayne Jordan, Noted Auctioneer and Celebrated Columnist of "Behind the Gavel" which appears frequently in established trade publications like "Antique Trader". "Nomenclature in this business is vastly important, and there is more misinformation circulating today than there ever was." "If you tell a customer that a cast iron door stop is a boot jack because to you it looks like it could be, and because Bill from three booths over has one like it tagged as a boot jack, so you decided it was; and that customer knows that it is actually a cast iron door stop, your customer is going to label you as a Yahoo that doesn't know sh_ _ from shinola and they will not buy from you. No one in this business, that wants to do any business, should also want to BE a Yahoo."
ReplyDeleteThe gist of the column was that if you are going to do any kind of sales that amount to money in your pocket, you need to learn what things are referred to as by the professionals, not what people online and at swap meets call things because most times, and especially online, they are making it up as they go along or doing very little real research on the item.
Margaret Siemers Thanks Margaret, for clearing that up. I think I have been using the word in the wrong text for awhile now. I must admit I have read listings using the word "retro" and took it to mean a term meaning, Looking Back, especially into the mid-century. Never put it with "imitation of something from the recent past." I will try Not to use that word now, improperly. Thanks to this post. It gets harder for me to make good descriptions without sounding repetitive. Always searching for good informative terms.
ReplyDeleteSue Smith Lol, without my Dictionary, Thesaurus, and Synonym books I would be having an even harder time than I do now.
ReplyDeleteThank you for your kind words, wasn't trying to be a know it all, just trying to help keep the industry going strong and on track. : )
Sue Smith Why don't I see you posting some of your items on Vintage for Sale, our sister site here. It is also for Artist, and believe me I have seen your quilts and they are works of art, and those that do work "in the style of " vintage items. (could not resist.) Exposure is key to this online business : )
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