Very interesting scene in this movie Sereno. It shows how good actors can pull off a serious appearance, and in a dramatic way as well. I would love to know what he was saying. :-)
Matthew Woodall In this fragment he says nothing (it's a silent film). Shortly before he speaks with the friends smiling, and his smile seems to say, "Uh, that ridiculous countess! Now I go there and I put her aside with two words," this happens. Countess von Geschwitz is the deepest an fragile figure of the movie, Dr. Schön is a strong man, you can see this sensation in countess's eyes. Anyway the movie is less drammatic than the original theatrical piece. Tomorrow I'll explain better in a massage. If you want really appreciate this movie, you have to read the book by Wedekind with the two theatrical pieces 'Heart Spirit and Pandor's Box'. The movie is a mix between the two representations. The most important thing: Lulu character is more gentle than book that, this was for censorship. At the first representation at the theater Pandora's Box was blocked an Wedekind underwent a trial for offense against the moral. It' sreally a great opera against hypocritral burgeois moral, even today.
Charlotte Issyvoo Pandora's Box because Lulu is the symbol of the femme fatale par excellence, everyone is irresistibly attracted by her but this is rendered as a buckled to bourgeois morality which gives to a woman the responsability to clean every personal instinct and desire to appear publicly as "clean". No, there is no triangle, the Countess is a lesbian, the Countess is weak and she is the object of derision from people who are much more crude and intellectually lower than her. Often those who are rude poses fewer questions to themselves: the security of ignorance.
Very interesting scene in this movie Sereno. It shows how good actors can pull off a serious appearance, and in a dramatic way as well. I would love to know what he was saying. :-)
ReplyDeleteMatthew Woodall In this fragment he says nothing (it's a silent film). Shortly before he speaks with the friends smiling, and his smile seems to say, "Uh, that ridiculous countess! Now I go there and I put her aside with two words," this happens. Countess von Geschwitz is the deepest an fragile figure of the movie, Dr. Schön is a strong man, you can see this sensation in countess's eyes.
ReplyDeleteAnyway the movie is less drammatic than the original theatrical piece. Tomorrow I'll explain better in a massage. If you want really appreciate this movie, you have to read the book by Wedekind with the two theatrical pieces 'Heart Spirit and Pandor's Box'. The movie is a mix between the two representations. The most important thing: Lulu character is more gentle than book that, this was for censorship. At the first representation at the theater Pandora's Box was blocked an Wedekind underwent a trial for offense against the moral.
It' sreally a great opera against hypocritral burgeois moral, even today.
I'd say in the movie this is gay subtext, not quite totally overt that this is a love triangle with a lesbian component. Is it more overt in the play?
ReplyDeleteCharlotte Issyvoo Pandora's Box because Lulu is the symbol of the femme fatale par excellence, everyone is irresistibly attracted by her but this is rendered as a buckled to bourgeois morality which gives to a woman the responsability to clean every personal instinct and desire to appear publicly as "clean".
ReplyDeleteNo, there is no triangle, the Countess is a lesbian, the Countess is weak and she is the object of derision from people who are much more crude and intellectually lower than her. Often those who are rude poses fewer questions to themselves: the security of ignorance.