This, and others I will show you, I found on UsVsThem or ViralNova.
This, and others I will show you, I found on UsVsThem or ViralNova. Showing sexest advertisments from the 40's and 50's is a trend these days. Makes my blood boil.
Pretty belittling stuff. I don't think my mom or sister would have put up with that sort of crap, although my mom was very deferring to her second husband, while he was very attentive to her, as well. But this kind of image in this illustration would have never have passed muster in my home growing up. Women weren't servants. Mom and my sister were leaders. In the home and in the neighborhood.
And your upbringing shows in you John Campbell Good men (and women) come from a good home with a strong and wise Mother and/or Father. My home was also not this way, and it riles me to see the Juvenal mentality large corporations had about women, and how many men in the world still carry this kind of belief. It is a bench mark to how far our country has come since these days, but also a sad reminder that is is not 100% gone. Like any crime or bias against any race, gender, or creed it is ugly; but still needs to be seen from time to time lest we forget. I am finished with my soap box now. I am just glad that what started out as fun quips has given pause to so many to think about it.
I must disagree that good men and women come from good homes with good mothers. I hope that I am a good person and... have you read my blog about how I was raised? A person can choose to be good, no matter the obstacles. It is precisely because of the hell I endured that I think we always need to have our eyes open to injustice, including sexism.
I must apologize for offending you so badly. What I was doing was complimenting John on his ethics. I, in no way meant to imply that people that come from situations such as yours can not be good people also. It is usually understood that there are exceptions to statements like mine as even Serial killers can come from good homes with "Mothers and/or Fathers".
Yes, I have indeed read your story and my heart wept for you. No child should ever endure the torment and horror that you did. I can not ever imagine how you managed to survive, let alone become, the courageous woman we are coming to know here in our little community.
You are a very special young lady and I did write to you on your blog. I can only assume it didn't get through. This was during the time my internet connections were not solid from storm and squirrel activity and they would phase in and out giving me false results on things I had sent. I am again sorry that you did not receive it, as you then would have known the amount of respect I hold for you.
I know too, that the trauma you experienced can color your perspective on general statements such as I had made. So I shall try not to offend you again with a generality such as this in the future. It is all I can do to make amends with you over this situation.
Margaret Siemers, it's okay. I may have received your comment on my blog. I actually have quite a lot of readers so it's hard for me to keep track. But one of the things that I've decided is important is to help people learn that speaking in generalities can cause unintended pain. I try hard not to speak in generalities myself because we never know who we're leaving out and therefore accidentally rendering invisible. This goes for all kinds of things, like assuming everyone is heterosexual, assuming childhood is always happy, or even making "skin coloured" bandaids that are really white person coloured.
Thank you for all your kind words and thanks especially for calling me a young woman. I'm 43.
You make a good point, and it is good not to hurt anyone's feelings so I will, as I said, try to be inclusive in things I say here.
However, there is a quote by Abraham Lincoln that was adapted for another situation by parties unknown to me that applies here.
"You can please some of the people some of the time. You can please all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time."
No matter how hard one tries to be "inclusive", "correct" what ever it gets labeled as, there will always be someone that is not pleased. So I also promise to try and toughen up when I feel I am being generalized about and take a broader look.
oh, gosh.
ReplyDeletethe feminist in me detests this message, but it's a damned good illustration!
Agreed Nina Kuriloff, the ties are fun and funky looking.
ReplyDeletePretty belittling stuff. I don't think my mom or sister would have put up with that sort of crap, although my mom was very deferring to her second husband, while he was very attentive to her, as well. But this kind of image in this illustration would have never have passed muster in my home growing up. Women weren't servants. Mom and my sister were leaders. In the home and in the neighborhood.
ReplyDeleteMy blood boils too.
ReplyDeleteAnd your upbringing shows in you John Campbell Good men (and women) come from a good home with a strong and wise Mother and/or Father.
ReplyDeleteMy home was also not this way, and it riles me to see the Juvenal mentality large corporations had about women, and how many men in the world still carry this kind of belief.
It is a bench mark to how far our country has come since these days, but also a sad reminder that is is not 100% gone. Like any crime or bias against any race, gender, or creed it is ugly; but still needs to be seen from time to time lest we forget.
I am finished with my soap box now. I am just glad that what started out as fun quips has given pause to so many to think about it.
I must disagree that good men and women come from good homes with good mothers. I hope that I am a good person and... have you read my blog about how I was raised? A person can choose to be good, no matter the obstacles. It is precisely because of the hell I endured that I think we always need to have our eyes open to injustice, including sexism.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sublimemercies.com/2013/12/when-christmas-is-trigger-enduring.html
Dear Sweet Charlotte,
ReplyDeleteI must apologize for offending you so badly. What I was doing was complimenting John on his ethics. I, in no way meant to imply that people that come from situations such as yours can not be good people also. It is usually understood that there are exceptions to statements like mine as even Serial killers can come from good homes with "Mothers and/or Fathers".
Yes, I have indeed read your story and my heart wept for you. No child should ever endure the torment and horror that you did. I can not ever imagine how you managed to survive, let alone become, the courageous woman we are coming to know here in our little community.
You are a very special young lady and I did write to you on your blog. I can only assume it didn't get through. This was during the time my internet connections were not solid from storm and squirrel activity and they would phase in and out giving me false results on things I had sent. I am again sorry that you did not receive it, as you then would have known the amount of respect I hold for you.
I know too, that the trauma you experienced can color your perspective on general statements such as I had made. So I shall try not to offend you again with a generality such as this in the future. It is all I can do to make amends with you over this situation.
With Respect and Much Admiration,
Margaret
Margaret Siemers, it's okay. I may have received your comment on my blog. I actually have quite a lot of readers so it's hard for me to keep track. But one of the things that I've decided is important is to help people learn that speaking in generalities can cause unintended pain. I try hard not to speak in generalities myself because we never know who we're leaving out and therefore accidentally rendering invisible. This goes for all kinds of things, like assuming everyone is heterosexual, assuming childhood is always happy, or even making "skin coloured" bandaids that are really white person coloured.
ReplyDeleteThank you for all your kind words and thanks especially for calling me a young woman. I'm 43.
You make a good point, and it is good not to hurt anyone's feelings so I will, as I said, try to be inclusive in things I say here.
ReplyDeleteHowever, there is a quote by Abraham Lincoln that was adapted for another situation by parties unknown to me that applies here.
"You can please some of the people some of the time. You can please all of the people some of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time."
No matter how hard one tries to be "inclusive", "correct" what ever it gets labeled as, there will always be someone that is not pleased.
So I also promise to try and toughen up when I feel I am being generalized about and take a broader look.